Sun 7 Aug 2005
Largely Uninformed Assumptions about Nancy Grace: Victims’ Rights Not at Odds with the Rights of the Accused?
Posted by Ben under Judicial , MediaI needed a new pair of glasses, and fast. On Friday, I am departing on a road trip from New Jersey to Alaska and back again, and I need a new pair of glasses, as my old pair is broken, and I can’t sleep in a car with contacts in mine eyes.
On Saturday I tried going to all of the local glasses merchants around my area in South Jerz. Blast! They were all closed for the weekend. I knew what that meant. I would have to venture to that miserable place so full with emptiness.
So I went to the mall. While waiting for my glasses to be finished (”in about an hour”), I wandered into the only place I hoped to find salvation: a bookstore. I was sadly mistaken.
This was the first time I’ve been in a mall bookstore in years. It was a frightening experience. There was a sizeable section of a wall devoted to something called “Manga”… I don’t want to know.
Classic literature was squeezed into half of a bookshelf.
On another wall was the “social science” section, which was filled with books written by politicians and other media personalities, usually with their faces bulging on the covers.
Such horrible titles, such awful mugs. But the book that really stuck out for me was the Nancy Grace book. The title: “Objection! : How High-Priced Defense Attorneys, Celebrity Defendants, and a 24/7 Media Have Hijacked Our Criminal Justice System.” And there was her face, her whole torso in fact, on the cover. She was glaring at me with her arms crossed, in a stern, damning way. She made me feel like I was guilty of something. But I began to chuckle once I realized just how silly her tough facade really was. It was marketing, clever and damn effective.
I don’t know much about Nancy Grace. Really, I know next to nothing about her. I read on the Huffington Post recently that her current talk show was beating out Larry King in the ratings.
But back to the title of the book. Isn’t she a part of that “24/7 News Media,” and does she not profit gorgeously from it? I know, not a strong criticism. But from what I’ve heard, she is the type that jumps the gun with conclusions of guilt, as in the Michael Jackson and Scott Peterson cases. I can’t imagine the rest of the 24/7 news media doing anything worse than that. It sounds like she’s really pushing the journalistic ethical envelope by being overtly partial to a particular verdict.
I’ve also gleaned from the inside pocket of her book that Grace is a strong “victims’ rights” advocate. This may help explain why she could be so in favor of finding people guilty before a trial’s conclusion. I have not done any scholarly (or non-scholarly) research on the topic of victims’ rights. But ignorance has never stopped me before:
Victims should not have “rights” in a criminal proceeding, in the usual sense. They don’t need rights to be protected. Penal law is supposed to take care of that. Criminal defendants, however, do very much need rights, and they are so granted by the Constitution, as well as by other common law court rules and legislation.
Perhaps a victim should have the right to influence prosecutorial discretion and other areas of law enforcement. If a legislature believes that a victim should be allowed to push for the state to take action, I see no problem with that. Victims should also be adequately protected from vengeful defendents.
Some jurisdictions allow the families of murder victims to testify, usually during sentencing I believe. This practice is a little questionable. Should the decision maker, whether judge or jury, be irrationally swayed by raw emotion that has no relevance to the merits of the case? Here’s a way to look at it: should a murderer get a worse sentence for killing a person with a family than for killing a person without one?
I’m sure there are many other legitimate issues on which victims’ rights advocates are taking a proper stand. But I would like to see victims’ rights advocates focus their efforts on curbing a bigger problem: overzealous law enforcement. Do they already address this? I guess its possible. But getting back to Nancy Grace, I have a feeling that most folks who talk the “victims’ rights” talk don’t really have this in mind. Why is overzealous law enforcement a problem for victims? I’ll put it this way: a victim gets just as much out of an acquittal of a truly guilty defendant as they do out of a conviction of a falsely-identified defendant. They get nothing. In the latter circumstance, a victim or a victim’s family may believe for years that justice was done, only to discover later that they were never so avenged, compounded with the tragedy of knowing an innocent person has been so grossly abused.
In a stingingly sarcastic post, Mithras writes about just such a case. It appears that the cops corralled multiple rape victims into pointing the finger at the wrong guy. Many years later, DNA evidence tells another story.
At his trial, his lawyers put on a weak defense. First, his co-workers testified that he was at work as a cook when the rapes occurred. Obviously, they are all lying, because people who work with rapists lie like that. And they said that if the rapist had left work and committed the rapes like the prosecution contended, he would smell strongly of the grease and onions of the kitchen, and none of the victims had noticed such a smell. Obviously, Mr. Diaz, who is believed to be not white, had learned in non-white rapist school how to remove the smell from himself while on the way home from his job. Finally, the lying liar defense lawyers pointed out that Mr. Diaz was shorter and weighed less than the person in the descriptions of the rapist provided by all of the victims. Obviously, Diaz could also control his height and weight with his mind. Diabolical.
Fortunately, the court did not believe the rapist Diaz and his lying lawyers and witnesses and evidence. The judge said, “I’ve never seen a case where I was more convinced of a man’s guilt.” Heh. Indeed.
The lying liberal New York Times then prints this:
One victim, whose identification of Mr. Diaz led to his arrest, said she had originally thought none of the men in the nine photographs she was shown resembled her attacker. She had asked to see more pictures, she said, but settled on Mr. Diaz after the police twice told her to keep looking at the first batch. He was the only one who remotely looked like the attacker, she said.
“They told me to look closer at the ones I had,” she told a state prosecutor in 1993, adding that the police were watching her study the photos “almost like people holding their breath.”
So, the police were just being helpful. The police are always helpful in identifying the guilty, and witnesses should listen to them. If a police officer says he thinks someone did it, then they probably did it. The fact that Diaz got convicted after the police did this proves they were right.
This victim said she grew more convinced that Mr. Diaz was her attacker when she “shook like a leaf” upon seeing him in a live lineup.
“All these girls couldn’t be wrong, the detectives couldn’t be wrong, it couldn’t go this far,” she recalled thinking.
See??? Once the police had corrected the victim’s faulty memory, she became more and more sure Diaz was the one. They cleared up her doubts for her. They smiled and patted her on the back when she picked the right guy. They’re the good guys.
Nancy Grace appears to be the kind of person to jump the gun on declarations of guilt. This is anything but a service to victims. And according to a customer review of her book on Amazon.com by one “Tom Roberts”, she has been found by courts to have engaged in unethical behavior in her days as a prosecutor (I would corroborate, but hell, he has a case citation!). The reviewer writes:
Since leaving the prosecutor’s office, Nancy Grace has been sharply repremanded by three different appeals courts for unethical and illegal behavior while she was a prosecutor. Her behavior was called illegal by every judge on the Georgia Supreme Court. Georgia is not exactly a friendly place for criminal defense and the lengths the court went in calling out Nancy Grace for ethical violations was very unusual.
They said she:
- Misrepresented facts to the trial judge so that her out of state witness could access the defendants home without the knowledge of the defense. Her witness gained access by breaking down the front door. For good measure, she subsequently also entered the defendants home with CNN cameras.
- Outright misrepresented the testimony of witnesses (falsely indicating in her closing argument that a defense witness had not disagreed with an opinion of the state).
- She inserted false information regarding hearing dates into a court proceeding to gain an advantage.
- She repeatedly ignored the instructions of the court. For example, she made multiple references to issues in her opening statement that the court had ruled (previously) to be inadmissiable.
- She failed to disclose a romantic relationship she knew about between two of her witnesses to the defense. She deliberatly held back her full witness list until the start of the trial.
For those interested, the case was: Carr v. State, 267 Ga. 701, 482 S.E.2d 314 (1997). Its a very detailed case study in how Nancy Grace abused her power as a prosecutor and how she operated without any real sort of ethics.
The court summarized her conduct in really harsh language:
begin quote -Our review of the record supports Carr’s contention that the prosecuting attorney engaged in an extensive pattern of inappropriate and, in some cases, illegal conduct in the course of the trial.
end quote -
This isn’t one bad judge, its the entire very conservative usually pro prosection Georgia Supreme Court giving that opinion.
And the title of her book attacks “high priced defense attorneys” that have “hijacked our criminal justice system”? The reviewer continues:
Its also important to remember that the person involved is free today only because he was rich and had the money to hire the lawyers to fight back against what she was trying to do. Most people would have ended up in jail for the rest of their lives.
August 7th, 2005 at 9:54 pm
Dude, don’t diss manga.
Also, would it be legitimate to argue that killing someone with a family causes greater collateral damage than one without? Hard to say I guess. A man/woman who doesn’t have a family but works really hard might be “supporting” his/her employer. Where to draw the line? I suppose this is why lines aren’t drawn.
August 8th, 2005 at 10:13 am
You know, Nancy Grace got involved in this when her fiancee was murdered, but that still gives her no right to be a class 1 jerk. She is cruel and unusual, and would probably give every murderer, or even suspected murderer the death penalty. I have always thought prosecutors were too stern which is why I root for the defense and assume innocence, but Grace is harshest of them all.
August 25th, 2005 at 7:44 pm
Nancy Grace, 47, commentator for Court TV.
A “Victim of a violent crime”
THE DOCUMENTED STORY OF THAT CRIME
The Murder of Keith Griffin.
What has she told us about what happened that violent day?
In searching through interviews, magazine and newspaper articles here is what she has said.
Then there are the documented facts gleaned from interviews with Jurors, Attorneys, Judge, Witnesses and newspapers in the area.
First the date, she has said at various times, it happened in 1987, 1985, 1982 and 1980. You would think a date that according to Ms. Grace “changed her life forever” would be burned into her soul. A seminal event!
The date was August 6, 1979 .
She said it happened in a remote wilderness.
It was on the entrance road to the Georgia Kraft Plywood Co. and US Hwy. 278, 1 ½ miles from downtown Madison Ga.
She said her boyfriend did not know his assailant.
They were friends, work for the same construction Co. In fact the prosecutor at trail based part of his case on the assailant killing a friend.
She said her boyfriend was 25.
He was 23.
She said the assailant was 25.
He was 19,
Said assailant was on parole
He was not.
Said he had a record.
He did not.
Said it was a murder for profit.
It was not.
The man was out for revenge after being fired from his job at the construction Co.
Said her boyfriend was driving a jeep,
It was a Bronco that belonged to the Construction Co.
Said it was robbery.
It was not.
Said they found Keith’s wallet with $35.00 and her picture in McCoy’s home
No wallet was found in his home. Just the 38 cal. revolver Ser# 33866 . (Griffin’s wallet was found several days after the incident in the Bronco, by Eli Ingram,)
Said it was a mugging.
It was not.
Said it was random.
It was not.
Said he was still alive when he arrived at the hospital.
He was pronounced dead at the scene .
Said she was asked by Joe Briley the District Attorney if he should seek the death penalty. Grace said she told him No and has regretted it ever since. (If that were true you would think Briley would have asked Griffin’s parents. rather than a 21 yr. old kid) .
The State did ask for the Death Penalty. The jury voted against it.
She said she testified at the trial.
Two Jurors, a Bailiff, a Defense attorney a Court Reporter and Judge do not remember any “white girl testifying”. (The transcripts were destroyed in a fire.) .
The Defendant never looked at her.
The accused stared at the floor during the entire trial. In fact he never spoke a word to his lawyer or anybody before, during or after the trial. (One exception)*
She said McCoy’s defense was “didn’t do it, you got the wrong guy
The truth is… there was never a doubt by anyone he did the crime (there is a confession)
The defense was insanity.
Said the Jury was out 3 days .
Jury was out 5 hrs.
She said there were many appeals.
There were none
Says she is 44 years old
.She is 47.
Documented narrative of what really happen August 6, 1979.
Keith Griffin 23, from Athens GA. and Tommy McCoy 19, an illiterate, mentally challenge Blackman, worked together for the Ingham Construction Co. on the Georgia Kraft Plywood Co. site outside Madison Ga.
McCoy was fired and was out for revenge. On Monday the 6th of August Mccoy left his house with a 38 cal. Revolver stashed in a brown paper bag.
Keith Griffin had taken the company Bronco to town to pick up lunch. Returning to Kraft he saw McCoy walking down the Company road at the intersection of US Hwy. 278.
Griffin stopped either to talk or to give a ride to McCoy. It is not clear which.
McCoy fired six shots at point blank range, five of which found their mark… McCoy then dumped the body in the back seat and in his rush, drove the Bronco in a ditch.
Joe Brown, a maintenance worker for the plant drove by in his truck and not knowing what had happed offered to help McCoy. He refused. Brown drove a few yards decided to return. He told McCoy he would take him to the hospital because of all the blood on his shirt.
The assailant then jumped in the passenger side of Brown’s truck, put the gun in the f ace of the Maintenance worker and pulled the trigger twice, ( At trial he said the gun looked like a “stove pipe”) The gun was empty, Brown ran and McCoy took of in his truck..
Minutes later friends of Brown’s showed up and said they saw the truck and knew where it was. It was parked in McCoy’s driveway. He was arrested a few minutes later with the gun in his possession.
Keith Griffin was pronounced dead at the scene.
Tommy got a lawyer, a good one, Billy Prior. According to Prior, McCoy never said a word to him before, during or after the trail. (One exception)*. During the entire 1 ½ day trail the defendant stared at the floor without moving. Prior did a magnificent job explaining the psychiatric reports and mental history of the retarded defendant. McCoy had been judged “mildly retarded” by the Ga. Central State Hospital. (By the way, no one remembers a “white girl” testifying.)
It worked! The jury turned down the death penalty.
When the Jury came back and announced they would not render a death penalty verdict. McCoy turned to his lawyer and uttered his only words. “Does that mean I’m gonna live”?*
Tommy McCoy, GDC ID: 0000400964 was convicted of murder, aggravated assault (Brown) and found not guilty of robbery. He was sentence to life, with possibility of parole.
He is in his 26th year at the Hancock State Prison at Sparta Ga,
Sources: Interviews with two Jurors, Judge, Attorneys, Court Reporter, the Bailiff. Court and documents,
Larry King Live., New Republic, Atlanta Journal, the Madisonian and Macon Telegraph. Newspapers.
Interview Sources and Documents
Interviewed
Bill Scholly, Investigator, Buckhead Ga. williamscholly@bellsouth.net
Bill Prior, Attorney for Mccoy. Madison Ga.
Joe Briley, District Attorney. Madison Ga.
Columbus Johnson. Sheriff. Madison Ga.
Don and Eli Ingram, Ingram Construction Co. Madison GA.
Hugh Thompson, Judge. Madison Ga.
Roy Dobbs, Jury Foreman. Madison Ga.
Alonzo Farmer, Juror. Madison Ga.
Joe Brown, Second Victim. Madison Ga.
Janet Wilkerson, Court Reporter. Milledgeville Ga.
Sentencing Documents. (Available on request)
Notice to suppress evidence. (Available on request))
Mccoy’s Personal History. (Available on request)
Jury Instructions. (Available on request)
August 26th, 2005 at 9:48 pm
Yowza, that’s a lot of detailed facts from Mike Scanlon. Lends support to my theory that Nancy Grace is full of it. Anyone have evidence to the contrary?
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