Wed 14 Jun 2006
You’d think that the religion that had survived the Roman Empire, the Inquisition, and all the Crusades would have a little more backbone. But maybe it’s a denominational thing. The US Southern Baptist Convention is apparently working up an “exit strategy” to extract their children from the crippling influence of the American public education system. Normally, I would oppose any group withdrawing from the public arena based on opposing viewpoints, but in this case I can make a huge hypocritical exception. Christians, begone!
If you are so upset and frothing at the mouth at the very idea that people live in ways you don’t approve of and raise kids in those lifestyles and don’t adhere to your idiotic belief that a Guy In The Sky is watching you and testing you and waiting for your soul at the end of your life, I say you AND your spawn should feel free to separate yourselves from the American community as much as you want. I’m disappointedly reminded too often that there are a large number of Americans that believe (and I mean BELIEVE) what’s written in a 2,000+ year old book instead of scientifically proven studies and empirical data that disproves almost all of the content of that book with hard evidence and neutral logic.
There is no data to suggest that home-schooled children are worse off than those children in the public school system. In fact, studies show that home-schooled children are slightly better test-takers, have a stronger concept of self, and are just as likely to socialize with their peers in after-school settings. What bothers me is this Christian mindset of us-against-them. This is, to me, the major cause of much of the conflict in American society, as the Christian majority attempts to impose their faith and their values and their rules upon a culture that is supposed to be all-inclusive and religion-neutral. Atheists and Muslims and Jews and Hindus and Buddhists and Zoroastrians shouldn’t have to fight against their Christian neighbors for the rights enshrined in the Consitution that guarantee freedom.
If these Baptists want to remove their children from the pit of despair that is the public school system, I really have no problem with that. But it speaks of their larger failure to be a group of people that is willing to take part in the American experience, which is to know your neighbor who is different from you. And that’s not just supposed to be an American value, it is supposed to be a Christian value as well. I guess members of those other faiths will have to learn their Christianity from those Christians who aren’t afraid to send their kids to school with Jews and Muslims and even, God forbid, atheists.
July 5th, 2006 at 5:37 am
The bible is the number one selling book in the world. There are a large number of Americans that believe (and I mean BELIEVE) what’s written in a 2,000+ year old book, is the TRUTH. The problem with America is lack of education and integrity. YOU probably do not even know what integrity means? Integrity is doing the right thing when nobody is looking. What the Christian religion teaches is love! Which the media will refuse to acknowledge. I do not care if you believe in Jesus Christ or not, There is no other religion that has more missionaries roaming the earth trying to free this world of disease and hunger than Christianity. How many muslim organizations go from country to country looking to feed the hungry and help the sick? Zero. A Loving religion will prevail, it always has, it always will.
July 13th, 2006 at 11:42 am
Loving care with a cost is no loving care at all. When your missionaries can separate providing food and medicine to the poor from requiring them to read the Bible and convert to Christianity, then I will believe that their works are inspired by true devotion to Christ. The missionaries you refer to do their works solely to “save” the poor of other nations from their cultural history as non-Christians.
And I’m sorry, but while your brethren pollute America with their hateful messages against women’s reproductive rights (not just abortion, but contraception and sex education as well) and gay marriage, they’re not exactly demonstrating this “Christianity teaches love” b*llsh*t that you’re trying to claim here.
Christianity stands for ignorance, blind obedience, servitude to those who do not deserve it, and rigid adherence to an outdated dogma of hate and death wrapped in a mantle of “love”. Look at Northern Ireland and tell me Christianity is love, with Catholics and Protestants murdering each other for decades. So long as people allow men (or women) to claim to speak in God’s name and demand actions that directly contradict the teachings of Christ, your religion is a sham and the greatest historical example of self-serving hypocrisy the world has ever seen.
July 15th, 2006 at 7:43 pm
I am a liberal and a blogger and a scientist, but when I see diatribes against any group of people, I call ‘em out. That was as hateful a post as anything Ann Coulter ever wrote. It was also uninformed and spastic. The Christianity you insult is only the Christianity you choose to see and comment on. For every bad priest, pope and preacher, and you sound like you have run into a few, there were thousands of good humble clergy and laypeople doing great things for humanity with no strings attached and never made the headlines. I agree that fundamentalist Christians have given us all a bad name..look how eager they were to support Bush and send our troops to Iraq illegitimately…but millions of Christians “hate” GW and fundamentalist Christianity, love the complexity of evolution and do not believe the Creation stories or many of stories in the Bible literally because most were never meant to be taken literally. But we who believe in science also know that miracles happen and science can’t explain it and there is MUCH that we will never know nor understand and there are no books, holy or scientific, that will explain everything. Like the old saying goes, the more you know, the more you realize what you do not know. Christian (religion) bashing is de regeuer on the left, but I will remind you that until the left makes a little room for religion in the party the same way they do atheists, the GOP will continue to define what Christianity is in this country and the more powerful the forces for fundamentalism will become.
July 16th, 2006 at 10:13 am
“Evil triumphs when good men do nothing.”
Take your religion and its image back from the fundamentalists, and then I’ll believe in the existence of this magical segment of people who “hate GW and fundamentalist Christianity.” Until then, they’ll continue to be the silent enablers of evil, because they are too afraid to present the message that they truly believe in, just because it is different from the status quo and might ruffle a few feathers. That any group should bring up a vote to remove their kids from public education for religious reasons goes to show the weakness of reason (and its representatives, these “liberal” Christians) among that group.
And please don’t reduce fact stating to “Christian bashing”. You’re only attempting to hide from or distort the truth, like your fundamentalist brethren do so often. Fact: missionaries push the Bible along with all the blankets and free meals they provide, which makes their services slightly less than honorable. If it were about just the services provided, they could do it without needing thousands of cheap Bible copies to hand out all over the world. Charity with an intent to increase membership remains not charity.
My parents and extended family all remain Catholic, and it was how I was raised. But since I’ve chosen to be critical of a religion that takes itself too seriously and allows no room for honest dissent, I suddenly “hate” Christians. This is not true. I hate the modern face of Christianity. I dislike that millions of people would allow themselves, through silence and non-involvement, to be represented globally by the smiling evil of Pat Robertson and all his hypocrisy. And until this liberal religious movement (which I still doubt the existence of at all) gets up off its collective fat ass, the appearance and actions of your religion and your faith will remain in the hands of people who use it for power and not for progress.
July 16th, 2006 at 12:40 pm
I must grimly agree with most of your points. The point that’s lost on most Christians is Jesus and that the best way to set a good Christian example is to just shut the fuck up and do the right thing w/out drawing attention. That’s why you seldom hear from or about the real followers of Jesus…they are not pious and pompous like the evangelicals are…but that doesn’t mean that they’re not working behind the scenes to leave the world a better place. I just made a post on my blog about the link between fundamentalist Christianity and the GOP…I’d be honored if you read it. I think it’s just an unholy alliance between rich folks/the military industrial complex and the masses of dumbass fundamentalists. At any rate, I’m in the belly of the beast, trying to change Christianity from the inside in order to bring it back from the dark side of conservatism. After all…Jesus was the world’s first true liberal. but it’s a lonely fight, though I completely understand why people like you are so turned off by Jesus now. My undercover example of trying to do the right thing w/out bringing my Catholic faith into it can be found at bloodforpeace.com. Although I have high hopes, I am also convinced that my fellow liberals TALK just as good a game as their Christian couterparts, but when it comes to actually DOING something positive, they are just talkers, too. I doubt that liberals will be beating the down the doors to the blood banks to join my protest of the war, but hope springs eternal.
December 14th, 2006 at 5:58 pm
How does what the SBC is doing differ from Catholic schools that are already established?
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